It`s the same today, especially that for the New Testament Church ,because the scriptures separated duties and works in the church also by sex gender.Notice, all these positions in the church are directed only to the men in the church and not the women,or to both together. Positions like Bishop(pastor), Elder(teacher) Deacon(servant), the teachings address them to a husband(man) of one wife. The scriptures did not say a wife of one husband, nor a single woman, nor a widow. But in error we see women teaching men and pastoring occurring more and more which is an act of satan's inspirations. God does not call or tell a woman to do what is contrary to his own word!, but the devil does. (I.Tim2:14) The woman is deceived to disobey God. A woman that is proud in heart, and exercising poor spiritual discernment will desire the work of a man and began to be a woman who is contrary to the doctrine. Even worse when she has openly accepted this mind and started doing the work of a man(pastoral work),that her heart is set in pride and enjoying the glory of a man till, she will not want to repent and step down to let a man have his lawful rights in the ministry. She is now in a spiritual snare and has adopted the seducing spirit character of Jezebel in Rev.2:20-23, notice that the woman is allowed by men to be their leader and teacher. Seduce means - to persuade to disobedience or disloyalty ."These things saith the Son of God"-Rev.2:20 says- Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works . Remember in Isai.3:12-17, says "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths" & vrs.16- Moreover the LORD saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet.17-Therefore the LORD will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.

Now we have today women debating and arguing,and insisting they have the right  to pastor, and weak men(ministers) agreeing with them, letting the women have their carnal ways. God wants real and true men of God to stand up, like in Ezek.13:17-Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them. Women that do their own thing against the will of God. So when a woman refuses the truth from the man that God does not permit her to pastor over men and women, then that woman has a rebelIious spirit. I.Sam.15:23 says,"  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry". It may look righteous, it may sound good, you may say you are being blessed, But if it`s NOT  according to God`s written will, then God is not in it!  This is going to be the future end of many assemblies that were apart of the body that disobeyed God, because Jesus here in Rev.2:20, is speaking unto the Church!  The fornication and adultery thats spoken is the root for sin and means spiritual Idolatry, not meaning she had men to committ sex acts. Which God calls Idolatry, disobedience to his word! One of the form of spiritual fornication that a Prophetess can make against the church is her showing a negative precedent  before all the women of the church, that the women will look at these women who are being rebellious and claiming they are Pastors and now leading them to feel they can become pastors also, and now starting a downtrend of a stumbling snares for women not to stay in their place before Christ and God.  Notice the connection of Paul`s word of "suffer not"(1Tim.2:12) and Jesus`s word of "thou sufferest"(Rev.2:20) why, because Jezebel had a rebellious and disobedience mind,towards God, and God`s prophet leaders and man. She conducted herself " presumptuously", usurping authority over men.  She conducted herself as she was in charge, as she had no limit of authority. She lead men to sin and to obey her commands. The record of her works are found in I Kings & II Kings. Jesus knew through divine revelations(Rev.1:1 & 2:20) that the women that are saved,some will be tempted by satan to sin like Jezebel. Some also will be tempted like Eve,to believe a lie against what God has said. In Gen.chapter 3,Eve believed what Satan told her, which means she would be as God, wise knowing good & evil and would not die. Satan(serpent) said "Ye shall not surely die:, For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". Which, if this were true, it would make her greater and over the man, even though Adam was created and made first before her. Notice that the bible does not show Eve discussing to Adam what the serpent said to her, but she made her own judgment of what was told to her between Adam and the serpent and she ate the fruit. This is why Paul said in I.Tim.2:14-" but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. " Transgression means to go against or to break the law, to disobey God. Notice,after satan has talk to Eve how her judgment concerning the forbidden fruit has changed-Gen.3:6- And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.  Thats why Christ is addressing the church in Rev.2:20, and likeing only the hardheadness(being decieved) of the woman to Jezebel`s behaviour,this is a fault of a woman, she is out of her place and useing authority over men, when God word has not told her,that she can. Also, we have women who justify themselves to pastor by using "Deborah" the Prophetess & Judge  -who was not a priest, elder, overseer,queen etc.of the Old Testament period when their were judges before Kings, but from her own mouth said in Judg.5:7- I Deborah arose, that I arose a mother in Israel. She even acknowledge her place to man in Judg.4:9. wanting man to have his rightful honor instead of her recieving it. Well how many more after her was there, and this shows that this was a short temporal position of her judging, and not judging over all of Israel. If you look at all the men judges before her, they lead the people and they judge differently than Deborah did. She was ask to go with the man, that God was sending out to lead. Read Judges3-6 chapters. Judg.5:12- Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam.Then he made him that remaineth have dominion over the nobles among the people: the LORD made me have dominion over the mighty.  Lets look at even in Jesus time how many women were in charge as leaders in Isreal, how many were teaching or judging in the synagogues,and have you notice that God never has called for a woman to be Queen over all Israel to reign, only kings . This would have been a good indication, that God uses men and women, to rule and reign over his people. If you look at the record, Queens that ruled over a nation were of the unsaved Gentiles.

Women also argue that "all God want is a vessel to be in and use" so he can use anybody. When do we grow wiser than God in our own sounds good and righteous concepts!  Yes, God wants a vessel, and he is seeing them as a male or female vessel. Thats why we have marriages, because we are male and female.(note) Jesus said in (Matt.23:29,Luke20:34-36) that we will all be as the angels in heaven and in the New Jerusalem. But now while we are on the earth we are made either to be a man or a woman vessel, and this do not take away from the fact of what is given to the man to do and obey and what is given to the woman to do and obey. Be not decieved, God is not mocked, he means what his word has said, not how we feel about what he has said!   So lets not fool ourselves by our own self righteousness of a "vessel" unto God, because when a "vessel" has children, then we have no problem in reconizing that, this vessel is a female,woman, and mother and not a male or man. You would`nt say a vessel had a child, but you would say,"a woman had a child". Also if all God wants is any vessel to use, then that will contradict Paul`s teaching of addressing the woman and not a vessel, in I.Cor.14:34. Also God in II.Cor.6:18- Will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. This shows God sees male and female children. Matt.15:7 :Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 In Christ`s Church he is the head & he has use the Apostles to set things in order concerning his church body. Remember being a Pastor and Teacher is "spiritual work " not a physical or natural work. Here is a thought, if Christ has welcome women to teach men and to pastor over them, why did he not call at least one woman to be of his 12 Apostles, or plainly speak of her freedom and rites or even show one example  in scriptures of women pastoring. If God sees us all the same, why did he not use just one woman to write his holy scriptures. From the bible, shows no women scribes and also there were no women chief priest serving over the people. Im not in no way teaching women are worthless and they have no rights, nor teaching women should not be loved and respected.  Women do have a place in the Body of Christ, in the assembly church, in the ministry and in the home. Its just no man can grant her rights against what God`s word has said. Man cannot grant her authority if God has not granted her with it over the man. Man cannot ordain a woman into the office of Elder. Why? Because a Elder is a teacher of men and women of the doctrine, and the same of office of Bishop which is to pastor. Rights come from God, not man, woman or satan. God has no problem expressing himself and his laws concerning men and women. You see its not about whether a woman can preach,teach or pastors equally good or better than a man, its all about "what GOD , THE CREATOR has said!" through his written word. So am I to believe and obey God`s word or a woman`s word. Jesus said this in Matt.24:45-Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?  But,today this seducing spirit deceives by using this scripture(Gal.3:28) as their bi-rite to teach and pastor, but this scripture has reference to Salvation in the belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ,that no matter if you're Jew or Greek,bond or free, or male or female, all can come to God through Christ Jesus.These scriptures in (Gal.3:28/ I.Cor.12:13/ I.John3:1-3) pertain to that ,we are all made one of one spirit, one body and all under one head to be saved. These scriptures are general body scriptures, not the ministry instruction ordinances scriptures, and not that God has given women the same rights of works as men for in I.Cor.12:13-  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Paul who is a minister, and Apostle wrote or sent letters to ministers who were Elders and Bishops,which are the New Testament instructions for whats to be done and allow in the Church. There are different gifts and different callings to works in the church. Spiritual saved minded women should not show a competitive spirit, warring the woman against the man, this type of mind is carnal and its whats in the world. The bible says "let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus", and that mind is to obey the will of God,ALWAYS !(Phill.2:5)(St.Joh.8:29)We all will be judge by this mind of Christ. 

Those that follow and allow themselves to be subject under these women who pastor are heading into destruction because it is not the will of God!,and the men, you are shaming your head(Christ),by being subject to these women, allowing them to teach and lead over you.  Isnt it interesting, that these women want you to believe and accept something they say God called them to do, when you for yourself cant find it in scripture to believe it!  What example do the single men have for marriage, and the same for the men that are married, if their pastor is a woman. How can a man lead about a wife if he's being lead by a woman.(I.Cor.9:5) It does not matter how good she preaches and teaches, the facts are there in the doctrine,and it does not matter if she swears God called her to do it, the facts are there ! This will mean the same for the male pastors that feel they can appoint their wives as co-pastors, this is the same error because you have to teach and use authority over men in public worship in order to pastor. Also for the women who are married and being the pastor, having their husband follow and she is leading him, how backwards this is against the order of God. Even in marriage, God calls the man , the "Head", and he refers to Sarah how she showed respect of the man and his position & work.(Eph.5:23,& I Pet.3:5,6)

Have you ever wonder why we have the "women can or can not pastor & teach men debate in the church", where did this start or come from. If it was the common, and all men & women knew that women in the church or ministry lead as pastors and teachers no one would ask or question , neither debate it, because all would know it was of God`s will to be so. If you look at the 4 Gospel books ,and the book of Acts, you will see no women leaders or teachers in the synagogues of the jews. But, there were devout ,honourable chief Gentile women, whom some of them believed through the ministry of the Apostles, and again no mention of them having authority in the church. There are many women names mention in the scriptures of the New Testament, but not one of them states clearly that they are a leader,pastor or teacher in the church. Here are (17) women of the New Testament church> Mary,mother of Jesus, Anna, Chloe, Claudia, Damaris, Dorcas, Elisabeth, Eunice, Joanna, Lois, Lydia, Martha & Mary, Mary Magdalene, Phebe, Priscilla,and Susanna. But, proud women decieveing others by saying that some of these women names are of leaders ,teachers,or are equal to men in the ministry, trying to find proof for themselves. So they lie on the scriptures about who the women were in the bible. Their goal is to make it appear that they have the same rites as men. These women search and look for scriptures that they can manipulate into saying what they want the scriptures to say for their carnal gains. Lets face the facts of accepting what the scriptures saids, instead of inputing to the scriptures.  Women were ministers(either carnal-helping and assisting the aiding of the saints or spiritual servants- preaching the gospel)but not as leaders over men. The women`s ministry serve under and with a man`s ministry, the men did the work as leader and teacher. According to scripture men were named Evangelist, and were charge to do the work of an evangelist. The Lord sent men out to do this type of ministry,to go out and travel and to visit churches to minister edification through preaching and teaching, baptisms, and to construct church order. The record shows women did the ministry work of love. Working in the labor of  helping and supporting of the saints as well as to the ministers that were in charge. The men that did similar were known as Deacons, some also preached.  An example of a woman servant is Rom.16:1- I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also. Now, lets consider what this scripture has said, first Phebe was not address as a Pastor, Apostle, Elder or Bishop. Secondly, she is a servant(minister), and Paul states how she serves in the ministry. Pauls says "assist her in business",not obey her as your pastor and teacher, nor did he say I am sending you a teacher. But, she has been a "succourer"of many. Meaning, someone who gives help in times of need, distress or difficulty. This shows how she serves in the ministry,even helping Paul in this way, but not being his minister equal in the ministry. Notice that none of the Apostles wives are mention as being "assistant pastors" or reconized as the  "First Lady" of the church. Theres no such thing as a first lady position in the church. The bible teaches humbleness, there is no sister greater over all the other sisters just because she is married to a pastor. The same as the men, the pastor is no greater than the rest of the brethern, just because he has a different work to do. Jesus taught this among his Apostles, and thats why he encourage the practice of "Foot Washing" in the church.  The written truth speaks for itself!  Notice that all the debators of Jesus`s teachings came from men, speaking out and challenging him, and there were no women debateing or challenging his authority. Only the men who were religious leaders. The true reason we have this debate in the church world is because of unbelief and disobedience to God`s word by proud, rebellious women and by false prophet men leadership.

This is an issue of "the pride of life". Women not accepting God`s word and then rebels against those who do believe it and stand up for it.  This is an issue from the beginning, let us remember the record, that satan(angels) was the first of God`s creation to sin, second was Eve(woman) by the motive of "the pride of life",cause her to eat the fruit(Gen.3:6), and then Adam(man) the third to sin by the motive of "Lust of the flesh" love for flesh, the woman, he ate the fruit. Her reason and motive is different from his reason, he was not decieved, meaning he knew not to eat and  eating the fruit will not make you a god, but you will die.  Adam was not tried by Satan but Eve was.  Adam sinned and was punish for "hearkened unto the voice of thy wife", being seduce by Eve to willful commit the transgression(Gen.3:17).  Now we see that the reason for women wanting to rule or have the authority, is because she was made subject unto the man, so now she will either obey or disobey man.

 In order for the woman to please God she has to accept that this is now God`s order in life. In Psa.119:133 says,"Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me. So can a woman read in scripture of God ordering her steps to be a pastor and teacher of the church, because God in scripture,through the Apostles  have order her to be spiritually silent. (God,Jesus,Man,Woman) Again , becoming a "pride of life " issue. God is a God of order and of rules, he cannot be denied. We may argue and rebel against him , but his divine order stands and remains and we will all be judge by it. There was a reason why God  did not make Eve the same time he made Adam. And not the same way as from the dust of the ground, but she was made AFTER him and from out of him. This made a creation order to be respected.  So in I. Tim.2:11-15, Paul is not teaching about marriage, he is teaching about the creation order and how the woman lost the right to be able to teach the man who was first in creation and made. Here is an example in I.Tim.2:11 says- Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. Now if the woman is to learn in silence, that will mean that someone else will be doing the teaching, if the women are learning(recieving the word), one teach and the other learns, and the doctrine calls the men in the church "Elders"- teachers.  Paul is showing why, and how this is shameful for the woman to teach the man and how she is out of her place before God.  I.Cor.11: For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.  Now just the same as marriage is symbolic of Christ and the Church. The church is under the order of Christ who is Head and First. The church is order to be subject(yield and submit) and to obey Christ, from God. The bible, the word of God is the only rule we have to go by , to know in truth we are serving and pleasing God!

The bible says- IITim.3:16-All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. Gal.6:3,4. says>3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. How can a woman proved  that she is to do the work of  a Pastor and Teacher over the saints, when she has no written orders or example in the doctrine of the Apostles. So again, if anyone say they are a pastor, then you are a Elder(teacher), and if also doing leadership work a Bishop(pastor-shepherd),you are a steward in "Christ stead".  I.Pet.4:10- As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. The saints all belong to Christ, and as a man ,you are a steward to pastor over the flock for Christ,I.Pet.5:1-4. So then you as a woman has to explain how you are ordain by God into these offices,when by scripture history shows only given to men.  Numb.27:16-Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh,set a man over the congregation.Which may go out before them, and which may go in before them, and which may lead them out, and which may bring them in; that the congregation of the LORD be not as sheep which have no shepherd. Notice!, that God considers a Shepherd(pastor) a man and search the scriptures to see when did God change his mind from this order given to man and has NOW, today shares it with the woman, as to pastor over the congregation! God has kept the Leadership unto men in Rom.12:6-8 says"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us(men/women) prophesy according to the proportion of faith;  Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. Notice the scripture say " he that teacheth, exhorteth, and  ruleth', which will go in conjunction with the other scriptures that address this work towards the men in the ministry. Now of course in scripture sometimes the wording on "man" or "he/him" can be general for both male and female, but if it is direct in identifying the gender, then thats who God is addressing. If the scriptures are recieve in faith and honesty,then you will admit that all scriptures of the Elders and Bishops are only directed to men. Like this for an example, In Exod.28:41 says," And thou shalt put them upon Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him; and shalt anoint them, and consecrate them, and sanctify them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office. Now when God commanded this in the Old Testament Dispensation, it was very clear that by the title of "Priest" it was only serve by men.  Again an example in I.Tim.3:1-7-This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? Then why are we so confused and easly mislead in the New Testament ,that by these titles of Pastor, Apostle, Bishop, Elder, and Evangelist that they are all served by men and not women. Why are women able today to decieve and seduce you into accepting them over you into these titles of works of the ministry. No man minister can preach or teach as a true prophet ,willingly being subject under a woman who is being his teacher and pastor . In I.Pet.2:5-10 is addressing the body of men  and women as a whole, this is another general scripture and its not pertaining to the callings of Elder or Bishop, but of things that we are now and going to be and that we as saints are able to offer up prayers(priesthood) for oneanother. There are things and positions that both men and women are together and the same and there are things in which they are not.

In conclusion, according to the "Apostle's Doctrine", -women may preach before men and women,  -the age women teaches the younger women these things-" behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things, teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed".    Adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. Also,Women are not to teach before men and not to use or have the authority over men.(note) Preaching(prophesying)  and Teaching(Eldership) is not the same form of "edifying". When a woman is being deceived by satan,he will cause her to desire and to become envious of men and to shame her head,and to bring a reproach against the doctrine.  To cause her to believe she is the mans equal in the ministry, but she is his equal as a holy saint, and child of God in the body. If she believes contrary, this mind only leads to her shame and destruction.(St.Matt.7:21-23)(Luke6:46) ...She must respect what has been given to a man and what has been given unto a woman! If you study the 14 chapter of Corithians, showing the woman`s place and respect ,remember the words of Apostle Paul, in I.Cor.14:37 says, If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38.But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

In closing admonishment,...Anyone in doubt of these teachings, then go in honesty and sincerity and ask the prophetess that is being a pastor and teacher over men, for her to show you in the (KJV)bible only, where she as a woman can pastor and the example in scripture of the woman doing it!. It will be very interesting in hearing a woman teach out of the books of I.Cor.11:3,14:26-40; I.Tim.2:9-15,3:1-7; Titus 2:3-5; Rev.2:20-24, and afterwards insist these scriptures allows her to pastor and teach over men. Since according to the holy scriptures God doesnt recognize a woman as a Pastor, then neither should you. To reconized them, is a declaring against God that you have the better and righteous judgement, not Him. You should know the truth, and if you are a woman thats pastoring  work now, then you have to accept the truth and repent as Jesus commanded in Rev.2:21, step down  for Christ to set a man over the people. To remain in this position is harm to your salvation and the assembly followers. Always remember, when you are under the religions of men, that the truth is always compromised into doing it man's way, and not the true way of God's holiness. 

***see also Newsletter "False Prophets" article.